Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] IETF Tools Call - 19 Oct 2011

From: Steve Conte <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:34:45 -0700

IETF Tools Call - 19 October 2011

Attendees:
Ray Pelletier
Bob Hinden
Steve Conte
Robert Sparks 
Henrik Levkowetz
Alice Hagens
Peter Saint Andre
Glen Barney
Alexa Morris
Russ Housley

Agenda:

1.  Taipei Code Sprint

RjS: Same approach as of last several sprints.  Page from CS wiki has a list of items for
folks to work on.  Small set of coders, but they're active so should get a lot done
HL: Some projects have come up that could benefit from the sprint.
 - Generate alias files that would let mail system host draft author aliases on ietf.org server
 - Implement extraction of submission author from xml files. 

RjS: Also work on the WG Chair tracker 

Are we in the terminal room?  Put food in a separate room.

2.  Project Update
	a.  DB Conversion WO #6 - IOLA
	
	HL: IOLA well into WO6, but developer is on parental leave.  Back and working in about
	    2 weeks.  1-2 weeks after that, the immediate conversion work should be complete.
	    Ryan Cross to work with him on Secretariat tools.  After that a better idea of how
	    much work is left and be able to schedule trials to do changeover and then do the 
	    changeover 
	
	b.  Charter Milestone Management Specs Dev - Hoffman
	
	Have not gone to requested bid yet for actual work
	RH: either in Lact Call or IESG Review, but close to send out to IDIQ bidders unless we
	    use those who did the charter work.  Will most likely be ready by EoM to determine  who
	    to send it to.
	
	c.  Alt Streams Dev Enhancements - Yaco
	
	HL: Essentially done.  Don't have tests by users.  Waiting/wanting more input from users.
	    If no new input, then suggest we implement. 
	RP: Agree.  Is there a need for training and if so, can it be done in Taipei
	HL: Isn't so complex that they need training.  If they can't understand what's there by
	    user interface, then we need to fix the user interface.
	
	d.  Back End Development - IOLA
	
	HL: Developer has done everything he can.  Has put in place most of requested but has proposal
	    to IANA.  Hasn't seen any replies.  Should probably nudge IANA to respond.  HL to 
	    reach out to IANA.
	AH: is there something that RFC Editor to be looking at?
	HL: will be using current XML format.  Developer will also implement and undo function 
	
	e.  Draft Tracking Support IETF Community Dev - Yaco
	
	HL: next step is to get beta site set up to test (Developer to set up).  If all is ok, then done.
	
	f.  RFC Management - AMS
	
	GB: No updates at this time
	
	g.  Telechat Interface - AMS

3.  RFPs
		a.  Remote Participation Services Specifications Development
		
		RP: RFP going out today
		PSA: Are those requirements the kinds of things that people expect to be in the 
		specifications or is that the hard list
		RH: it's the kind of things that we've seen in the past and things that would like to be
		in the specification.. is the strawman
		
		b.  Agenda Scheduling Tool Development
		
		RP: RFP going out by end of week 
		RjS: Will it go out to IDIQ vendors?
		RP: No, it will go out broadly

4.  Forecast
		CTD:					$198K
		In Work:				$96.5
		Awaiting Work:  		$73k
		Budget:  				$429k
		Forecast: 				$368k

5.  AOB
    
    RjS: Spoke about an email archive search tool.  Have people in markmail investigate internally
    to see if it can fit IETF needs.
    RH: Tried to get Google to look at it and was unsuccessful to get comments
    HL: Looked at markmail and found resistence to get into it to use it 
    RH: Why don't we end research part and just publish RFP to get it out to bid 
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    AH: XML RFC list question about libraries.  Once mail is going through, who is that and
    what's the long term maintanence for library
    HL: Current is sitting on one of the tools server.  Long term should have a different solution
        Should be part of the regular maintanence.
    RH: Agree that we need to figure out where we want them (ietf.org and/or rfc-editor.org) and
        make it happen.
        2nd is which party is responsible 

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Steve Conte
Internet Leadership Programmes
The Internet Society
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