Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Tools Team Teleconference Notes - 14 May 2010

From: Steve Conte <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 08:52:26 -0700

Tools Call - 14 May 2010

Attendees:

Bob Hinden
Julian Reschke
Steve Conte
Henrik Levkowetz
Russ Housley
AMS Secretariat
Glenn Barney
Robert Sparks

1.  Bash the Agenda

- No Changes

2.  Database Redesign

HL: Not much change since last call.  Mostly working with contractors.  Should
continue within a week or so.
RH: Status of if Henrik is right or Pasi
HL: Work has mostly strengthened that Henrik is right, but not complete yet

3.  IT Work Plan - see below

RH: IAOC updated based on IAOC retreat: broke it down to quarters 
1st Q:
- Henrik as Project Manager
- Ed J on contract
-- Docs delivered this week, updated yesterday
- Entered into IDIQ contracts with 3 Django developers

2nd Q: 
- AMS provided Rolodex project, two waves, only charged for one
- IOLA first contract 
- New work order to complete ID submissions tool, awaiting bids
-- Question from a bidder, request Henrik to answer.  HL ACKs
- Work order bid to liaison tool
-- originally planned for next year, but budget/time says we can move forward
- AMS: Area mgmt, group mgme, telechat 
- RFP out to develop specs for IAOC, IAB and IRTF (alternate streams)

Q3: 

- Expecting DB conversion to be complete
- Changes to IESG tracker
-- IOLA working on converting from PERL to Django
- AMS advance their contract to provide more support to IESG and IETF functions

Q4: 

- Ed's work to get under work order
- Alternate streams under work order
-- moved to Q4 so conversion is complete, may be able to move these forward if 
conversion happens sooner
- Additional work for AMS

4.  WG & Author Front End Specs - status

RH: mostly covered above
2 Drafts posted.  Docs make up support of the frontend for the datatracker

5.  Mission Critical Tools Transfer to Secretariat

GB: idnits complete, standing by for more
rfcdiff and nomcom should be next
can probably do them in parallel
RH would like nomcom to be up and running before voting members of nomcom are seated
should be seated before Maastricht meeting

GB: perception of idsubmission is mostly done, and work to vendors is primarly to 
finish it up.  RH says mostly right, but work is a bit more than originally thought.
Django versions are different, etc
HL: Conversion also has a number of flaws which haven't been addressed yet.
GB: AMS experiencing pain over existing tool and asks for expedite.  RH agrees

6.  Datatracker UI Updates: Screen Scraping Concerns

RH: when datatracker changed, no one has contacted RH about screen scraping tool being
damaged.  Agreed to add interfaces if people complained.  Jari's tools broke, but didn't
complain (unknown resolution).
HL:  Contacted by Jari about some things that couldn't be scraped.  HL added interfaces
which should be out next release.
RS: message from Jari that new tools will be out soon.  
One comment back is that URI patterns may change as we move more and more to datatracker
style URIs.  People don't necessarily want that and would like to see the traditional URIs
(even if handled by redirects)
GB: Would be nice if we can keep it to a minimum as it may become difficult to manage
RH: Biggest concern is that people may point to things like msg archives and want to 
ensure that the legacy URLs continue to work
HL: thinks ways can be worked out to continue to have legacy URLs working.  Biggest
challenge will be to not regenerate mailman archives as it may renumber messages
BH: Useful to publish a list of redirects?  GB: Maybe.. there's a few ways to do it

7.  Maastricht Codesprint

Announcement made
Wiki website up
added sprint to list of events near IETF meeting
SC to use his punchlist to coordinate room
HL concerned that it may be too close to "dining area" which may impact the ability to 
stay focused
RH it's the same room that will be used for Terminal Room and will push back if there's 
issues surrounding that

8. Conte Update
	CafePress Store
	SC: storeID still not available.  Jorge Contreras drafted a letter to Cafepress and
	SC provided dates and information.  Letter to be sent soon.  Many dissatisfied with 
	Cafepress' lack of response/action as well as print limitations and suggested that 
	it may be wise to look for alternative printing facilities.
	
	Code Sprint
	Notes above in Item 7
	
	Asian Server
	Server in Japan should be up in the next few weeks.  Masafumi Oe-san said it should be
	ready mid-May and we're now entering that period
	
	Deep Inventory
	application inventory will be posted to the wiki today.  SC will coordinate with HL
	where to associate the URL within the wiki
	
9. Other Business

No AOB
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IT Projects Update 5-13-10

Q1
	PM Starts
	Author & WG Spec Requirements RFP
	IDIQ MSAs executed with IOLA, Concentric Sky, Yaco

Q2
	Rolodex Development - AMS - DONE
	IESG Work Order (WO) - IOLA - In Work
	Author & WG WO - Awaiting Specs
	ID Submission Tool WO - Awaiting Bids
	Liaison Tool WO - Awaiting IAB input

	Area Management WO - AMS - Issued
	Group Management WO - AMS - approved, awaiting execution
	Proceedings WO - AMS
	Telechat Interface WO - AMS

	Alternate Streams Spec Dev RFP - under negotiation

Q3
	DB Conversion (Henrik)
	Database Conversion Tools WO
	IESG Update WO

	Draft Management WO - AMS
	RFC Management WO - AMS
	Meeting Management WO - AMS
 	
Q4
	Author & WG Conversion Update WO
	Alternate Streams WO

	Session Management WO - AMS
	Announcement Management WO - AMS
	IDnits Interface WO - AMS
	IPR Interface WO - AMS
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Steve Conte
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