Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Conf Call Notes 11-09-07

From: Ray Pelletier <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:27:34 -0500

TMC Call 11-09-07

Attendees

IETF
Bob
Russ
Cullen
Henrik
Ray
Bill

NSS
Michael
Barbara
Jon

Agenda

1.  Transition - Timeline and Impact
2.  Tools Dev Update
3.  Open Source Plan
  a. Repository
  b. Way forward for completed Python Tools
  c.  VolTool migration to Open Source
4.  Vancouver Code Sprint
5.  Other.
  a. Mtg in Vancouver?
6. Actions

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1.  Transition - Timeline and Impact

AMS will be assuming Secretariat responsibilities, date not yet fixed, 
but probably Jan
Impact - assuming responsibility for maintaining ID Tracker and tools 
with a different team
AMS has its own tool set which will be evaluated during 2008 as a 
possible replacement for current tools
Probably see the Meetings Registration tool in January.
No impact on open source program of currrent tools

2.  Tools Dev Update
IDST Python - by 1 Dec
IESG I-D Tracker Python RFP awarded to NSS - only bidder delivery 2/15/08
Meeting Session Request Tool - 11/28

Outstanding Queue
LSMT Enhancements - specs
Conversion of Liaison Manager must be completed first - specs
WG Charter Tool - specs
WG Milestone Updater - no specs
XML meta info - no specs
Email Address Update Tool - incomplete draft specs
BOF Session Request Tool - no specs
I-D Management Tool - no specs
Secretariat Tools Wish List - inernal tools

Bill - intention is to have options at Code Sprint

Barbara to provide updated Tools report to [email-masked]

3.  Open Source Plan
  a. Repository
Primary : tools.ietf.org Henrik

Henrik - Would like a mirror somewhere else

Bob - why do it ourselves?

Henrik - find a source that let's us manage it.  Python developers have 
moved away from SourceForge - unbearable;
Google better, but still slow.

Bob - don't want to go down path of doing everything oursleves

Cullen - Google works for me

Henrik - Current repository least work for me; want something in a 
second place; more work for me if elsewhere a Primary; looking for a 
minimal effort

Cullen - requirement for good backups; not sure how Henrik going to do 
it; SVN issues; no objections

  b. Way forward for completed Python Tools

need to embed NP-OSL reference in tools - who: Henrik, Bill?

Tag - Henrik has done in some source files, complete them; need copy of 
license in known place
Cullen - usually with repositiory

Bill - not whole license in the files; need a list of the source files, 
done and not done

Cullen - who checking in the ;license only valid for non-profit; need to 
talk to lawyers before files checked in because must be done by a 
non-profit association; need non-profit association to ask you to do it 
on your behalf; to avoid claim that person who did it not allowed to use it

Issue - Need an Agency assignment from Trust/ISOC from a non-profit?

Bob - just a 1st checked in, or all later?

Cullen - legal document

Henrik - Code Sprint - not giving everyone commit rights

Henrik - Deposit acting on behalf of the Trust

Copyright by Trust and Commit rights

Need legal Text for Code Sprint participants agreee to to handing over 
the code

By Vancouver?

  c.  VolTool migration to Open Source

Bill - IESG Informal Telechat Agenda Tool - Django re-write - Experiment 
for VolTools

Henrik - tools need only have an Open License from the author and have a 
place in repository
Ray - dual licenses?
Henrik - mostly not; special case

4.  Vancouver Code Sprint

Cullen - rounding up people - 12 volunteers

Bill - rounding up ideas as well; to be solidified into more concrete 
things; have a development environment set up with database and current 
Perl tool

Saturday 0930 - till drop

Day -
Intro
General Structure of code and tools
Django intro
Split into groups

5.  Other.
  a. Mtg in Vancouver  - Yes, after final Agenda published Monday
Will doodle poll the group to find day and time

6. Actions

Ray - Legal document for volunteers to assign code to Trust
Ray - Legal advice/document regaring authority to deposit NP-OSL files 
in the repository
Barbara - Tools Report Update
Henrik - set up repository on tools.ietf.org; find a backup
Bill & Cullen - Code Sprint
Bill - progress IESG Informal Telechat Agenda Tool to Open Source
Ray - poll for meeting of group in Vancouver

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