Subject: Re: [apps-review] apps-review => appsdir
From: Dave CROCKER <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:26:28 -0800
List-Id: Apps Area Review List <apps-review.ietf.org>

On 11/29/2011 3:59 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote:
> We need an underground room with a circular table. And big maps. And drinks.

underground is for the lower layers' directorates.

d/
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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 14:23:07 +0000
From: Alexey Melnikov <[email-masked]>
To: Mark Nottingham <[email-masked]>
Cc: Apps Area Review List <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [apps-review] apps-review => appsdir

On 29/11/2011 23:59, Mark Nottingham wrote:
> We need an underground room with a circular table. And big maps. And drinks.
Yes, and T-shirts.
> Something like this:
>    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59YKlP--PhU
>
>
> On 30/11/2011, at 7:27 AM, Dave Cridland wrote:
>
>> On Tue Nov 29 20:13:04 2011, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
>>> Going from "Review Team" to "Directorate" is cool, but have we hit a glass ceiling?  Or is there something above this, like "APPS Review Council", that we can look forward to?
>> Council, Board, Cabal, Mafia... These are all well and good, but everyone has those kinds of titles these days.
>>
>> Maybe we can all become Knights Grandmaster of the Venerable Order Of Apps? That'd suit me, but then, I've never been the fussy type.
>>
>> Dave.
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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 07:32:05 +0100
From: Salvatore Loreto <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review => appsdir

On 11/29/11 8:41 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:37 AM
>> To: SM
>> Cc: [email-masked]
>> Subject: Re: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review =>  appsdir
>>
>> SM, where do we want to store information about the working groups that
>> AppsDir members are tracking?
> I just added those columns to the table on the directorate page.  We're deciding whether or not we like how it looks.  Have a look; what do you think?
wfm
I have just edited wgs I am tracking

thanks
Salvatore

From: Larry Masinter <[email-masked]>
To: Dave Cridland <[email-masked]>, Mark Nottingham <[email-masked]>, "Murray S. Kucherawy" <[email-masked]>, Apps Area Review List <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 19:35:11 -0800
Accept-Language: en-US
acceptlanguage: en-US
Subject: Re: [apps-review] apps-review => appsdir

The apps working group chairs used to meet, toward the end of the IETF week=
. I think people were bored by the update of information that wasn't of int=
erest to them.
I knew people were as bored as I was, because almost everyone was doodling.=
 At the end of the meeting, I picked up all the doodles and scanned them wh=
en I got home:

http://larry.masinter.net/apps-working-group-chairs.html

from the August 27, 1998 IETF in Chicago.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On=
 Behalf Of Dave Cridland
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 4:29 PM
To: Mark Nottingham; Murray S. Kucherawy; Apps Area Review List
Subject: Re: [apps-review] apps-review =3D> appsdir

On Tue Nov 29 23:59:37 2011, Mark Nottingham wrote:
> We need an underground room with a circular table. And big maps. =20
> And drinks.

We have one of those in the hollowed-out volcano - didn't you get the invit=
e?

Dave.
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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 00:29:13 +0000
From: Dave Cridland <[email-masked]>
To: Mark Nottingham <[email-masked]>, "Murray S\. Kucherawy" <[email-masked]>, Apps Area Review List <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [apps-review] apps-review => appsdir

On Tue Nov 29 23:59:37 2011, Mark Nottingham wrote:
> We need an underground room with a circular table. And big maps.  
> And drinks.

We have one of those in the hollowed-out volcano - didn't you get the  
invite?

Dave.
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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:11:42 -0800 (PST)
From: William Mills <[email-masked]>
To: Mark Nottingham <[email-masked]>, Dave Cridland <[email-masked]>
Cc: Apps Area Review List <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [apps-review] apps-review => appsdir
Reply-To: William Mills <[email-masked]>

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From: Mark Nottingham <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 10:59:37 +1100
To: Dave Cridland <[email-masked]>
Cc: Apps Area Review List <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [apps-review] apps-review => appsdir

We need an underground room with a circular table. And big maps. And =
drinks.=20

Something like this:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D59YKlP--PhU

On 30/11/2011, at 7:27 AM, Dave Cridland wrote:

> On Tue Nov 29 20:13:04 2011, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
>> Going from "Review Team" to "Directorate" is cool, but have we hit a =
glass ceiling?  Or is there something above this, like "APPS Review =
Council", that we can look forward to?
>=20
> Council, Board, Cabal, Mafia... These are all well and good, but =
everyone has those kinds of titles these days.
>=20
> Maybe we can all become Knights Grandmaster of the Venerable Order Of =
Apps? That'd suit me, but then, I've never been the fussy type.
>=20
> Dave.
> --=20
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> - acap://acap.dave.cridland.net/byowner/user/dwd/bookmarks/
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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 22:37:41 +0100 (CET)
From: Claudio Allocchio <[email-masked]>
To: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review => appsdir

>> same for me. Shall we just send the info via mail to SM ?
>
> Or edit the wiki page yourself. :)

Ok, that was just to avoid a rush of concurrent wiki edits... which will 
result is a lot of (not nice) fun when you hit "save" ;-)

>
> Peter
>
> -- 
> Peter Saint-Andre
> https://stpeter.im/
>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:33:35 -0700
From: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
To: Claudio Allocchio <[email-masked]>
OpenPGP: url=https://stpeter.im/stpeter.asc
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review => appsdir

On 11/29/11 2:28 PM, Claudio Allocchio wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> 
>> On 11/29/11 12:41 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email-masked]
>>>> [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:37 AM
>>>> To: SM
>>>> Cc: [email-masked]
>>>> Subject: Re: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review => appsdir
> 
>>>> SM, where do we want to store information about the working groups that
>>>> AppsDir members are tracking?
>>>
>>> I just added those columns to the table on the directorate page. 
>>> We're deciding whether or not we like how it looks.  Have a look;
>>> what do you think?
>>
>> Works for me.
> 
> same for me. Shall we just send the info via mail to SM ?

Or edit the wiki page yourself. :)

Peter

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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 22:28:32 +0100 (CET)
From: Claudio Allocchio <[email-masked]>
To: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review => appsdir

On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

> On 11/29/11 12:41 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:37 AM
>>> To: SM
>>> Cc: [email-masked]
>>> Subject: Re: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review => appsdir

>>> SM, where do we want to store information about the working groups that
>>> AppsDir members are tracking?
>>
>> I just added those columns to the table on the directorate page.  We're deciding whether or not we like how it looks.  Have a look; what do you think?
>
> Works for me.

same for me. Shall we just send the info via mail to SM ?

>
> Peter
>
> -- 
> Peter Saint-Andre
> https://stpeter.im/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 13:08:22 -0800
To: Carsten Bormann <[email-masked]>
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review => appsdir

Hi Carsten,
At 12:10 29-11-2011, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>Do we have a convention for the groups we are chairing?

Not yet.  You can specify that. :-)

>(I'd expect Mark to be interested in httpbis and I'm interested in
>core, but this is a bit different from my interest in httpbis.)

BTW, I won't assign a review to you if you are chairing the WG.  As I 
needed a httpbis perspective for draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-14, I 
assigned the review to Mark.  Julian could not take the assignment as 
he reviewed the document previously and identified some issues.  For 
draft-ietf-kitten-sasl-openid-07, I had to rule out Eliot and 
Alexey.  There are also cases where any perception of conflict of 
interest (affiliation) has to be avoided.

Best regards,
-sm 

Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 13:48:54 -0700
From: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
To: Carsten Bormann <[email-masked]>
OpenPGP: url=https://stpeter.im/stpeter.asc
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review => appsdir

On 11/29/11 1:10 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> On Nov 29 2011, at 20:57, SM wrote:
> 
>> Please update the list of WGs if you have not done so.
> 
> Do we have a convention for the groups we are chairing?
> (I'd expect Mark to be interested in httpbis and I'm interested in core,
> but this is a bit different from my interest in httpbis.)

I added a column. But I really should be reviewing documents for
Thursday's IESG telechat, so I'm not going to touch the wiki again today. :)

/psa

Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 20:27:47 +0000
From: Dave Cridland <[email-masked]>
To: "Murray S\. Kucherawy" <[email-masked]>, Apps Area Review List <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review => appsdir

On Tue Nov 29 20:13:04 2011, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
> Going from "Review Team" to "Directorate" is cool, but have we hit  
> a glass ceiling?  Or is there something above this, like "APPS  
> Review Council", that we can look forward to?

Council, Board, Cabal, Mafia... These are all well and good, but  
everyone has those kinds of titles these days.

Maybe we can all become Knights Grandmaster of the Venerable Order Of  
Apps? That'd suit me, but then, I've never been the fussy type.

Dave.
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From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:13:04 -0800
Accept-Language: en-US
acceptlanguage: en-US
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review => appsdir

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] =
On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:54 AM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review =3D> appsdir
>=20
> FYI. This should take place in the next few days.
>=20
> You've all been promoted to be part of the Directorate! :)

Going from "Review Team" to "Directorate" is cool, but have we hit a glass =
ceiling?  Or is there something above this, like "APPS Review Council", tha=
t we can look forward to?

From: Carsten Bormann <[email-masked]>
To: SM <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 21:10:08 +0100
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review => appsdir

On Nov 29 2011, at 20:57, SM wrote:

> Please update the list of WGs if you have not done so.

Do we have a convention for the groups we are chairing?
(I'd expect Mark to be interested in httpbis and I'm interested in  
core, but this is a bit different from my interest in httpbis.)

Gruesse, Carsten

Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:57:46 -0800
To: [email-masked]
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review => appsdir

At 11:41 29-11-2011, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
>I just added those columns to the table on the directorate 
>page.  We're deciding whether or not we like how it looks.  Have a 
>look; what do you think?

Thanks, that looks good.

Please update the list of WGs if you have not done so.

Best regards,
-sm 

Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:43:31 -0700
From: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <[email-masked]>
OpenPGP: url=https://stpeter.im/stpeter.asc
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review => appsdir

On 11/29/11 12:41 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:37 AM
>> To: SM
>> Cc: [email-masked]
>> Subject: Re: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review => appsdir
>>
>> SM, where do we want to store information about the working groups that
>> AppsDir members are tracking?
> 
> I just added those columns to the table on the directorate page.  We're deciding whether or not we like how it looks.  Have a look; what do you think?

Works for me.

Peter

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https://stpeter.im/

From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <[email-masked]>
To: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>, SM <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:41:53 -0800
Accept-Language: en-US
acceptlanguage: en-US
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review => appsdir

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] =
On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:37 AM
> To: SM
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review =3D> appsdir
>=20
> SM, where do we want to store information about the working groups that
> AppsDir members are tracking?

I just added those columns to the table on the directorate page.  We're dec=
iding whether or not we like how it looks.  Have a look; what do you think?

Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:37:24 -0700
From: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
To: SM <[email-masked]>
OpenPGP: url=https://stpeter.im/stpeter.asc
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review => appsdir

On 11/29/11 12:24 PM, SM wrote:
> At 10:54 29-11-2011, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> You've all been promoted to be part of the Directorate! :)
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> The webpage with the list of team members is at
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirectorate There
> is a minor change to the template (
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/template ) used for reviews.
> 
> Please feel free to update your list of expertise, etc. 

SM, where do we want to store information about the working groups that
AppsDir members are tracking?

> You can request
> a tools.ietf.org login if you don't have one yet.

Here:

http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin

> I would like to welcome the following new reviewers:
> 
>  Tobias Gondrom
>  William Mills
>  Jiankang Yao
>  Yoshiro Yoneya

Thanks, guys! Special thanks to Bill for the quick turnaround on his
first review (draft-ietf-kitten-sasl-openid-07).

We're still recruiting new AppsDir members to lighten the reviewing
load, so let us know if you have any candidates.

Peter

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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:24:55 -0800
To: [email-masked]
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review => appsdir

At 10:54 29-11-2011, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>You've all been promoted to be part of the Directorate! :)

Thanks.

The webpage with the list of team members is at 
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirectorate 
There is a minor change to the template ( 
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/template ) used for reviews.

Please feel free to update your list of expertise, etc.  You can 
request a tools.ietf.org login if you don't have one yet.

I would like to welcome the following new reviewers:

  Tobias Gondrom
  William Mills
  Jiankang Yao
  Yoshiro Yoneya

Best regards,
-sm 

Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:54:05 -0700
From: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
OpenPGP: url=https://stpeter.im/stpeter.asc
Subject: [apps-review] Fwd: apps-review => appsdir

FYI. This should take place in the next few days.

You've all been promoted to be part of the Directorate! :)

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: apps-review => appsdir
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:53:29 -0700
From: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
CC: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>

Dear Secretariat,

Please create a new list [email-masked], copy the archives for
[email-masked] to the new list, copy the subscriber list, and
redirect apps-review to appsdir. Please make the admins for appsdir the
same as the admins for apps-review.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks!

Peter

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https://stpeter.im/

Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 00:49:03 -0800
To: William Mills <[email-masked]>
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] [apps-discuss] [APPS-REVIEW] review of draft-ietf-kitten-sasl-openid-07

Hi Bill,
At 22:24 28-11-2011, William Mills wrote:
>Document: draft-ietf-kitten-sasl-openid-07
>Reviewer: William J. Mills
>Review Date: November 28, 2011
>IETF Last Call Date:  October 25, 2011

Thanks for taking on the assignment and producing the review within a 
day.  And a thanks to Eran for helping me to find a reviewer for this draft.

Best regards,
-sm 

Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 10:13:46 -0800
To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <[email-masked]>
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] [apps-discuss] APPS Area review: draft-ietf-v6ops-happy-eyeballs

Hi Murray,
At 01:06 26-11-2011, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:

>Document: draft-ietf-v6ops-happy-eyeballs
>Title: Happy Eyeballs: Success with Dual-Stack Hosts
>Reviewer: Murray S. Kucherawy
>Review Date: November 25-26, 2011

Thanks for doing the review.

>3) Is Section 5.6 necessary?  If A6 records were already busted to 
>Experimental, it seems like this gives them needless attention.  To 
>that end, perhaps this document (or a different one from v6ops) 
>should declare A6 Historic.

There was a discussion [1] in the DNSEXT WG about moving A6 resource 
records to Historic.

Best regards,
-sm

1. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/current/msg14615.html  

Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 12:20:55 -0800
To: [email-masked]
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Request for review: draft-ietf-kitten-sasl-openid-06

Hello,

Peter requested a review of draft-ietf-kitten-sasl-openid-06.  I need 
someone with OpenID expertise for the review.  If you can take on the 
review, please email me.

Best regards,
-sm

Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 03:37:06 -0800
To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <[email-masked]>
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Reassignment: draft-ietf-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-05 (was: request for review: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-14)

Hi Murray,
At 03:29 AM 11/17/2011, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
>Sure.  What's the due date?

The due date was November 24th.  As this draft is on the December 1st 
telechat, it would help the ADs if the review is available by November 28th.

Best regards,
-sm 

From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <[email-masked]>
To: SM <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 03:29:57 -0800
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acceptlanguage: en-US
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Reassignment: draft-ietf-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-05 (was: request for review: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-14)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: SM [mailto:[email-masked]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 1:48 AM
> To: Murray S. Kucherawy
> Cc: [email-masked]; Mark Nottingham
> Subject: Reassignment: draft-ietf-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-05 (was: [apps-rev=
iew] request for review: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-14)
>=20
> I have not received any response from Mark yet.  I'll reassign the
> review of draft-ietf-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-05 to you.  Thanks for
> volunteering.

Sure.  What's the due date?

Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 01:47:53 -0800
To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <[email-masked]>
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: [apps-review] Reassignment: draft-ietf-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-05 (was: request for review: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-14)

Hi Murray,
At 12:56 AM 11/17/2011, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
>If Mark hands it off, I volunteer to take it.

I have not received any response from Mark yet.  I'll reassign the 
review of draft-ietf-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-05 to you.  Thanks for volunteering.

Best regards,
-sm 

From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:56:35 -0800
Accept-Language: en-US
acceptlanguage: en-US
Subject: Re: [apps-review] request for review: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-14

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] =
On Behalf Of SM
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:55 AM
> To: Peter Saint-Andre
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [apps-review] request for review: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer=
-14
>=20
> The pending review is for draft-ietf-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-05.  I can
> reassign that draft to someone else if Mark can only do one of the
> assignments.  I am waiting for feedback from Mark in case he has
> already acted on the pending review.

If Mark hands it off, I volunteer to take it.

Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:54:31 -0800
To: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] request for review: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-14

Hi Peter,
At 12:47 AM 11/17/2011, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>SM, what is Mark's other pending review? I ask because we really want
>good HTTP knowledge brought to bear on this OAuth spec, so we might want
>to ask someone else to look at the other pending review.

The pending review is for draft-ietf-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-05.  I can 
reassign that draft to someone else if Mark can only do one of the 
assignments.  I am waiting for feedback from Mark in case he has 
already acted on the pending review.

Best regards,
-sm 

Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:47:56 +0800
From: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
To: SM <[email-masked]>
OpenPGP: url=https://stpeter.im/stpeter.asc
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] request for review: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-14

On 11/17/11 4:42 PM, SM wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Peter requested a review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-14.  Julian
> identified some issues in the draft.  Could you please take on the
> review as you are involved in HTTPbis?  I know that you already have
> another review pending.  If you cannot do the assignment, please let me
> know.

SM, what is Mark's other pending review? I ask because we really want
good HTTP knowledge brought to bear on this OAuth spec, so we might want
to ask someone else to look at the other pending review.

Thanks as always to our reviewers. Your work is appreciated!

Peter

-- 
Peter Saint-Andre
https://stpeter.im/

Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:42:10 -0800
To: Mark Nottingham <[email-masked]>
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: [apps-review] request for review: draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-14

Hi Mark,

Peter requested a review of draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-14.  Julian 
identified some issues in the draft.  Could you please take on the 
review as you are involved in HTTPbis?  I know that you already have 
another review pending.  If you cannot do the assignment, please let me know.

Thanks,
-sm

Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:33:33 -0800
To: Julian Reschke <[email-masked]>
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Request for review: draft-ietf-kitten-sasl-openid-06

Hi Julian,

Peter requested a review of draft-ietf-kitten-sasl-openid-06.  The 
review has been assigned to you and is due before November 
24.  Please see 
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/apps-review/current/msg00613.html 
for details.

Take care,
-sm

Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:43:24 -0800
To: Larry Masinter <[email-masked]>
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] breakfast notes

Hi Larry,
At 09:38 PM 11/15/2011, Larry Masinter wrote:
>I was speculating about what the relationship between the Apps 
>directorate and W3C might be, if you kind of think that W3C handles 
>"the web parts of Apps", e.g., recruit more folks from W3C to be in 
>apps-review (although there already are some).

We have a few folks involved in the W3C on the team.  If you know 
anyone who can do reviews for the Apps Area, please ask the person to 
contact me.

Best regards,
-sm 

From: Larry Masinter <[email-masked]>
To: Barry Leiba <[email-masked]>, Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:38:48 -0800
Accept-Language: en-US
acceptlanguage: en-US
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [apps-review] breakfast notes

I was speculating about what the relationship between the Apps directorate =
and W3C might be, if you kind of think that W3C handles "the web parts of A=
pps", e.g., recruit more folks from W3C to be in apps-review (although ther=
e already are some).

I don't think we came to any conclusions, though.

Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On=
 Behalf Of Barry Leiba
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 1:33 PM
To: Peter Saint-Andre
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] breakfast notes

> If you were at the breakfast meeting, feel free to add or amplify upon=20
> these notes.

We also talked about having the AppsDir members provide lists of WGs that t=
hey follow, so we can coordinate coverage and "liaison"
activity.

Barry
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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:38:47 +0800
From: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
To: Barry Leiba <[email-masked]>
OpenPGP: url=https://stpeter.im/stpeter.asc
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [apps-review] breakfast notes

On 11/16/11 1:32 PM, Barry Leiba wrote:
>> If you were at the breakfast meeting, feel free to add or amplify upon
>> these notes.
> 
> We also talked about having the AppsDir members provide lists of WGs
> that they follow, so we can coordinate coverage and "liaison"
> activity.

That was:

###

4. To help with #3, we want to know who in the AppsDir is watching or
involved with relevant WGs in other areas (e.g., DANE, V6OPS, OAUTH).
This will be added to the directorate page here:

http://www.apps.ietf.org/content/applications-area-review-team

[side note: use http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki instead?
might be easier to get everyone working together at that site]

###

Sender: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 00:32:44 -0500
From: Barry Leiba <[email-masked]>
To: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [apps-review] breakfast notes

> If you were at the breakfast meeting, feel free to add or amplify upon
> these notes.

We also talked about having the AppsDir members provide lists of WGs
that they follow, so we can coordinate coverage and "liaison"
activity.

Barry

Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:40:18 +0800
From: Salvatore Loreto <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] breakfast notes

some thoughts on a couple of points

On 11/16/11 12:19 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> 3. We want to encourage early involvement of AppsDir members in work
> within other areas (and by extension perhaps also W3C etc.).
+1
>
> 8. It would be good to have better tracking of who has completed
> reviews, so that we can give credit where credit is due. We might be
> able to borrow Gen-ART tools or something else. Suggestion also to use
> the tools.ietf.org tracker here:
>
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/report
still borrowing form my IEEE experience as Technical Editor dealing with 
the
manuscriptcentral IEEE tool,
it would be great if we can have a similar powerful tool also in IETF 
that let you

search for people and of each of them provide some other information 
fields like
- how Current/Past 12 Months reviews (he/she has or has finalized)
- Days Since Last Review (it could help the leader to assign new reviews)
- Average R-Score (to provide credit)

>
> 9. We'd like to have a better idea of work happening in other areas that
> might benefit from AppsArea input. Discussion is welcome. Possible
> approaches might include watching the relevant working groups in other
> areas and establishing automated tools to perform keyword searching of
> -00 or -01 WG drafts (Peter to ping the tools team). Pete and I will
> also ask other ADs about their new work on a regular basis in the the
> IESG informal telechats.
can we officially delegate this work directly to the wg chairs in the 
different areas?
(of course if the IESG agree )

letting the wg chairs know that in the case they see some draft 
(especially working group draft 00 or
personal draft that are going to be discussed in a IETF meeting)
in their working group that somehow involve (or could involve) APPs Area 
they have to contact
as soon as possible the

"Applications Area Directorate".

cheers
Sal

Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:19:16 +0800
From: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
OpenPGP: url=https://stpeter.im/stpeter.asc
Subject: [apps-review] breakfast notes

Here are brief notes from this morning's breakfast meeting of the
apps-review team.

1. We're going to change the name from "Review Team" to "Directorate"
because, among other things, it will be easier for folks to justify
these activities to their manager if they're involved in the
"Applications Area Directorate".

2. I at least would prefer to change the list name to [email-masked].

3. We want to encourage early involvement of AppsDir members in work
within other areas (and by extension perhaps also W3C etc.).

4. To help with #3, we want to know who in the AppsDir is watching or
involved with relevant WGs in other areas (e.g., DANE, V6OPS, OAUTH).
This will be added to the directorate page here:

http://www.apps.ietf.org/content/applications-area-review-team

[side note: use http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki instead?
might be easier to get everyone working together at that site]

5. All chairs of WGs in the Apps Area will be added to the appsdir list,
but they might be excused from certain tasks (help other areas, complete
reviews, etc.) because of time constraints. Part of the motivation here
is for the AppsDir to be a team of all the AppsArea leaders.

6. We're looking to recruit more AppsDir members and will ask the WG
chairs to scout around in their working groups for possibilities.

7. We're looking for someone to help SM so he doesn't burn out. Rotating
the "leader" and "secretary" (or whatever the titles are) would be helpful.

8. It would be good to have better tracking of who has completed
reviews, so that we can give credit where credit is due. We might be
able to borrow Gen-ART tools or something else. Suggestion also to use
the tools.ietf.org tracker here:

http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/report

9. We'd like to have a better idea of work happening in other areas that
might benefit from AppsArea input. Discussion is welcome. Possible
approaches might include watching the relevant working groups in other
areas and establishing automated tools to perform keyword searching of
-00 or -01 WG drafts (Peter to ping the tools team). Pete and I will
also ask other ADs about their new work on a regular basis in the the
IESG informal telechats.

If you were at the breakfast meeting, feel free to add or amplify upon
these notes.

Peter

-- 
Peter Saint-Andre
https://stpeter.im/

From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:47:00 -0800
Accept-Language: en-US
acceptlanguage: en-US
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team at IETF82

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] =
On Behalf Of Claudio Allocchio
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 2:45 PM
> To: Peter Saint-Andre
> Cc: Barry Leiba; [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team at IETF82
>=20
> As I'm not physically there I have no time zone problems :-)
>=20
> I wish you a nice meeting!!!

Just make sure you're having a beer at the same time we are.  :-)

Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:45:27 +0100 (CET)
From: Claudio Allocchio <[email-masked]>
To: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
Cc: Barry Leiba <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team at IETF82

As I'm not physically there I have no time zone problems :-)

I wish you a nice meeting!!!

On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

> 7:30 works for me. I've been waking up at 4 or 5 anyway. :)
>
> On 11/15/11 1:36 AM, Joseph Yee wrote:
>> 
>> On 2011-11-14, at 2:47 AM, SM wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Barry,
>>> At 11:29 PM 11/13/2011, Barry Leiba wrote:
>>>> I'm in.  But I suggest that 8 is too late.  By the time people
>>>> straggle in, and considering we'll have to leave at 8:45, we've not
>>>> got much time.  I suggest we go for 7:30.
>>> 
>>> I'll talk to the ADs and see whether 7:30 a.m. suits them.
>> 
>> I'm in.  I agreed with Barry, starting at 8 is too late, for both eating 
>> breakfast and discussion.
>> 
>>> 
>>>> Also, if we do a large-ish breakfast meeting, how do we deal with
>>>> those who are not staying at the Hyatt, and don't get the Hyatt
>>>> breakfast (but maybe get breakfast in their hotels)?
>>> 
>>> We'll charge it to the ADs' rooms. :-)
>> 
>> Which AD? :)
>> How about App Review Team Lead? :D
>> 
>> joking aside, I'm ok of my own not-staying-at-Hyatt problem.
>> 
>> Joseph
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From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:12:10 -0800
Accept-Language: en-US
acceptlanguage: en-US
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team at IETF82

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] =
On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 1:49 PM
> To: Joseph Yee
> Cc: Barry Leiba; [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team at IETF82
>=20
> 7:30 works for me. I've been waking up at 4 or 5 anyway. :)

Dit*yawn*to on all counts.

Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:52:43 -0800
To: Joseph Yee <[email-masked]>
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: Barry Leiba <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team at IETF82

Hi Joseph,
At 09:36 AM 11/14/2011, Joseph Yee wrote:
>I'm in.  I agreed with Barry, starting at 8 is too late, for both 
>eating breakfast and discussion.

Let's make it 7:30 a.m. then.

>Which AD? :)

I suggest picking the one who doesn't sponsor your I-Ds. :-)

>How about App Review Team Lead? :D

That would set a precedent which is against IETF practices. :-)

>joking aside, I'm ok of my own not-staying-at-Hyatt problem.

Don't worry about it.  We'll figure out something.

Best regards,
-sm 

Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:48:48 +0800
From: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
To: Joseph Yee <[email-masked]>
Cc: Barry Leiba <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team at IETF82

7:30 works for me. I've been waking up at 4 or 5 anyway. :)

On 11/15/11 1:36 AM, Joseph Yee wrote:
>
> On 2011-11-14, at 2:47 AM, SM wrote:
>
>> Hi Barry,
>> At 11:29 PM 11/13/2011, Barry Leiba wrote:
>>> I'm in.  But I suggest that 8 is too late.  By the time people
>>> straggle in, and considering we'll have to leave at 8:45, we've not
>>> got much time.  I suggest we go for 7:30.
>>
>> I'll talk to the ADs and see whether 7:30 a.m. suits them.
>
> I'm in.  I agreed with Barry, starting at 8 is too late, for both eating breakfast and discussion.
>
>>
>>> Also, if we do a large-ish breakfast meeting, how do we deal with
>>> those who are not staying at the Hyatt, and don't get the Hyatt
>>> breakfast (but maybe get breakfast in their hotels)?
>>
>> We'll charge it to the ADs' rooms. :-)
>
> Which AD? :)
> How about App Review Team Lead? :D
>
> joking aside, I'm ok of my own not-staying-at-Hyatt problem.
>
> Joseph

From: Joseph Yee <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:36:34 -0500
To: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: Barry Leiba <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team at IETF82

On 2011-11-14, at 2:47 AM, SM wrote:

> Hi Barry,
> At 11:29 PM 11/13/2011, Barry Leiba wrote:
>> I'm in.  But I suggest that 8 is too late.  By the time people
>> straggle in, and considering we'll have to leave at 8:45, we've not
>> got much time.  I suggest we go for 7:30.
>=20
> I'll talk to the ADs and see whether 7:30 a.m. suits them.

I'm in.  I agreed with Barry, starting at 8 is too late, for both eating =
breakfast and discussion.

>=20
>> Also, if we do a large-ish breakfast meeting, how do we deal with
>> those who are not staying at the Hyatt, and don't get the Hyatt
>> breakfast (but maybe get breakfast in their hotels)?
>=20
> We'll charge it to the ADs' rooms. :-)

Which AD? :)
How about App Review Team Lead? :D

joking aside, I'm ok of my own not-staying-at-Hyatt problem.

Joseph

>=20
> Best regards,
> -sm=20
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Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:47:56 -0800
To: Barry Leiba <[email-masked]>
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team at IETF82

Hi Barry,
At 11:29 PM 11/13/2011, Barry Leiba wrote:
>I'm in.  But I suggest that 8 is too late.  By the time people
>straggle in, and considering we'll have to leave at 8:45, we've not
>got much time.  I suggest we go for 7:30.

I'll talk to the ADs and see whether 7:30 a.m. suits them.

>Also, if we do a large-ish breakfast meeting, how do we deal with
>those who are not staying at the Hyatt, and don't get the Hyatt
>breakfast (but maybe get breakfast in their hotels)?

We'll charge it to the ADs' rooms. :-)

Best regards,
-sm 

Sender: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:29:54 -0500
From: Barry Leiba <[email-masked]>
To: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team at IETF82

> The Apps review Team meeting has been moved from Thursday to Wednesday fo=
r
> breakfast. =A0We will be meeting at 8:00 a.m. at the Grand Hyatt Hotel.
> =A0Please email me if you can attend.

I'm in.  But I suggest that 8 is too late.  By the time people
straggle in, and considering we'll have to leave at 8:45, we've not
got much time.  I suggest we go for 7:30.

Also, if we do a large-ish breakfast meeting, how do we deal with
those who are not staying at the Hyatt, and don't get the Hyatt
breakfast (but maybe get breakfast in their hotels)?

Barry

Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:18:43 -0800
To: [email-masked]
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team at IETF82

Hello,

The Apps review Team meeting has been moved from Thursday to 
Wednesday for breakfast.  We will be meeting at 8:00 a.m. at the 
Grand Hyatt Hotel.  Please email me if you can attend.

Thanks,
-sm

Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:45:03 -0800
To: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: Pete Resnick <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team at IETF82

Hi Peter,
At 08:46 PM 11/12/2011, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>I think restricting it to AppsDir members is better. If you want to 
>come to our fun lunch meetings, join the AppsDir. ;-)

Ok.  We are meeting on Thursday then. Dave and Eliot won't be able to make it.

Do you want to go out or should I ask Wanda for a room?

Best regards,
-sm 

Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:46:56 +0800
From: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
To: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: Pete Resnick <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team at IETF82

On 11/13/11 12:02 PM, SM wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> At 07:50 PM 11/12/2011, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> Thursday lunch will work. Let's find a venue. How many apps-review
>> folks can be there?
>
> Let's meet for Thursday at lunch then. We have around 33 members on the
> team. Do you want to have Apps WG Chairs too? I'll talk to you about the
> logistics.

I think restricting it to AppsDir members is better. If you want to come 
to our fun lunch meetings, join the AppsDir. ;-)

/psa

Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 20:02:21 -0800
To: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: Pete Resnick <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team at IETF82

Hi Peter,
At 07:50 PM 11/12/2011, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>Thursday lunch will work. Let's find a venue. How many apps-review 
>folks can be there?

Let's meet for Thursday at lunch then.  We have around 33 members on 
the team.  Do you want to have Apps WG Chairs too?  I'll talk to you 
about the logistics.

Could folks please confirm with me by email or in person?

Regards,
-sm 

Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:50:05 +0800
From: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
To: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: Pete Resnick <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team at IETF82

On 11/13/11 1:49 AM, SM wrote:
> Hi Pete and Peter,
>
> Could we meet during lunch hour some day this week? I'll wait for you to
> confirm whether Thursday 17th suits your schedule.

Thursday lunch will work. Let's find a venue. How many apps-review folks 
can be there?

Peter

-- 
Peter Saint-Andre
https://stpeter.im/

Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:24:15 +0800
From: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
To: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: Pete Resnick <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team at IETF82

Yes, let's meet. I am not sure of my lunch and dinner plans yet, but 
will get clear on that today.

Thanks, SM!

On 11/13/11 1:49 AM, SM wrote:
> Hi Pete and Peter,
>
> Could we meet during lunch hour some day this week? I'll wait for you to
> confirm whether Thursday 17th suits your schedule.
>
> Best regards,
> -sm

Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:49:27 -0800
To: Pete Resnick <[email-masked]>, Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team at IETF82

Hi Pete and Peter,

Could we meet during lunch hour some day this week?  I'll wait for 
you to confirm whether Thursday 17th suits your schedule.

Best regards,
-sm

Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 21:53:26 +0100
From: Salvatore Loreto <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team status

happy to see you in Taipei!

Salvaotre

On 11/9/11 6:14 PM, Eliot Lear wrote:
>
> On 11/9/11 5:55 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> Hi SM, thanks for the update. It will be a pleasure to see you in Taipei!
>>
> +1
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Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 18:14:14 +0100
From: Eliot Lear <[email-masked]>
To: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team status

On 11/9/11 5:55 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Hi SM, thanks for the update. It will be a pleasure to see you in Taipei!
>
+1

Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 09:55:05 -0700
From: Peter Saint-Andre <[email-masked]>
To: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team status

Hi SM, thanks for the update. It will be a pleasure to see you in Taipei!

On 11/8/11 4:20 PM, SM wrote:
> Hello,
>
> There is the pending directorate matter. I plan to follow-up on that
> with the Apps Area ADs next week.
>
> Alexey Melnikov and John Klensin will be considered as available for
> review assignments as their leave ends next week. Eric Burger remains on
> leave.
>
> As usual, if anyone thinks that I am doing something wrong or in a
> sub-optimal way, please email me, the ADs or this mailing list. If you
> cannot perform an assignment, please let me know. I understand that you
> may be busy or in need of a break.
>
> On an unrelated note, I will be attending IETF 82. if you know anyone
> who would like to be a reviewer, please ask the person to contact me.
>
> Best regards,
> -sm
>
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Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:20:15 -0800
To: [email-masked]
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Subject: [apps-review] Apps Area Review Team status

Hello,

There is the pending directorate matter.  I plan to follow-up on that 
with the Apps Area ADs next week.

Alexey Melnikov and John Klensin will be considered as available for 
review assignments as their leave ends next week.  Eric Burger 
remains on leave.

As usual, if anyone thinks that I am doing something wrong or in a 
sub-optimal way, please email me, the ADs or this mailing list.  If 
you cannot perform an assignment, please let me know.  I understand 
that you may be busy or in need of a break.

On an unrelated note, I will be attending IETF 82.  if you know 
anyone who would like to be a reviewer, please ask the person to contact me.

Best regards,
-sm

Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:52:48 -0800
To: Mark Nottingham <[email-masked]>
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: [apps-review] Request for review: draft-ietf-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-05

Hi Mark,

Peter requested a review of draft-ietf-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-05.  The 
review has been assigned to you and is due before November 
24.  Please post your review to apps-discuss (see below), and DO NOT 
post it to apps-review.

The review should be sent to apps-discuss, the IESG, the authors, the 
WG Chairs and document shepherd, if applicable.  You can use the 
tools alias  [email-masked] to 
cover the authors, WG chairs, and shepherd.  If your review 
recommends significant changes to a working-group document, you 
should also consider copying the working group's mailing list.

Suggested distribution:
    To: 
[email-masked],  [email-masked]
    cc: [email-masked]

You can view the Apps-review template at 
http://www.apps.ietf.org/content/apps-review-template  Some previous 
reviews from the Apps-review Team are accessible at 
http://www.apps.ietf.org/content/apps-review-tracker

Best regards,
-sm

Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:49:14 -0800
To: Julian Reschke <[email-masked]>
From: SM <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: [apps-review] Request for review: draft-ietf-kitten-sasl-openid-06

Hi Julian,

Peter requested a review of draft-ietf-kitten-sasl-openid-06.  The 
review has been assigned to you and is due before November 
24.  Please post your review to apps-discuss (see below), and DO NOT 
post it to apps-review.

The review should be sent to apps-discuss, the IESG, the authors, the 
WG Chairs and document shepherd, if applicable.  You can use the 
tools alias  [email-masked] to 
cover the authors, WG chairs, and shepherd.  If your review 
recommends significant changes to a working-group document, you 
should also consider copying the working group's mailing list.

Suggested distribution:
    To: 
[email-masked],  [email-masked]
    cc: [email-masked]

You can view the Apps-review template at 
http://www.apps.ietf.org/content/apps-review-template  Some previous 
reviews from the Apps-review Team are accessible at 
http://www.apps.ietf.org/content/apps-review-tracker

Best regards,
-sm